misterd
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Post by misterd on Dec 20, 2011 1:05:13 GMT -5
OK, maybe that's not quite the accurate quote from Ms. Morgan, but it does sum up my feelings about the "shocking" ending to Dexter Season 6. Let's forget the fact that the Doomsday killer was a lame villain, and the mysterious secret of Professor Gellar was cracked by the internet by episode 5. Or the fact that the most interesting twist of the season - Dexter's brother playing the role of dark passenger- was too short lived.
No, this is all about the ending.
In the penultimate episode, we get dropped a (hopeful) red herring that Deb loves Dexter, in a Wrong Turn sorta way. That alone signaled that a shark was in the water and Dexter was strapping on some skis.
Then in the final ep, all is resolved, nice and tidy, Dexter has DDK strapped to the table, and Deb just walks in. No reason for her to be where she is, especially not alone. She's just... there. We've seen before, most notable in S5, just how much drama and tension could be created in building up to this moment, but instead it is dropped on us like a sloppy after thought. And this after wide complaints over the way they chickened out in S5. We got blue balls last year for this? Really? The whole sixth season now feels like a bad time waster, simply postponing what should have been done a year ago.
I am not writing the show off yet. I definately want to see where it goes from here. But damn if I don't hear an outboard motor starting up. |
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Post by jmodlinc on Dec 20, 2011 1:49:55 GMT -5
OK, maybe that's not quite the accurate quote from Ms. Morgan, but it does sum up my feelings about the "shocking" ending to Dexter Season 6. Let's forget the fact that the Doomsday killer was a lame villain, and the mysterious secret of Professor Gellar was cracked by the internet by episode 5. Or the fact that the most interesting twist of the season - Dexter's brother playing the role of dark passenger- was too short lived.
No, this is all about the ending.
In the penultimate episode, we get dropped a (hopeful) red herring that Deb loves Dexter, in a Wrong Turn sorta way. That alone signaled that a shark was in the water and Dexter was strapping on some skis.
Then in the final ep, all is resolved, nice and tidy, Dexter has DDK strapped to the table, and Deb just walks in. No reason for her to be where she is, especially not alone. She's just... there. We've seen before, most notable in S5, just how much drama and tension could be created in building up to this moment, but instead it is dropped on us like a sloppy after thought. And this after wide complaints over the way they chickened out in S5. We got blue balls last year for this? Really? The whole sixth season now feels like a bad time waster, simply postponing what should have been done a year ago.
I am not writing the show off yet. I definately want to see where it goes from here. But damn if I don't hear an outboard motor starting up. Some links you probably will agree with to some degree (and, an interview with showrunner Scott Buck about the end of the season and what's to come)... horroretcforum.proboards.com/index.cgi?board=links&action=display&thread=4831 |
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Post by mundays on Dec 20, 2011 14:28:05 GMT -5
That final moment actually happens in the very FIRST dexter novel - and there's been six or so other novels since then. I've always been expecting it, certainly doesnt herald a death knell, just another new direction. This series as a whole was probably the weakest since the 'oooh Pardon my tits' season though. Shame. I really liked last season and I know it had a few detractors.
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Post by Scary Gary on Dec 20, 2011 16:08:44 GMT -5
This season seemed to have some good with some bad. It felt more like an essay on "How the Character of Dexter Morgan would Handle the Topic of Religion" more-so than a season of the series. I enjoyed it for what it was, but it did not live up to my expectations. I guess I was hoping that Dexter would explore Christianity more then he did. Instead, I felt he basically highlighted the hypocrisy and shortcomings more than the positives. (This being said by an atheist. My meds must be off.)  The ending... I agree that having a reason for Deb being at the church would have been much more palatable. I liked the imagery of having DDK killed there; but if you plan on that reveal, all those pieces have to fit to work. It definitely felt sloppy to me. |
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Post by kingstownted on Dec 20, 2011 23:01:27 GMT -5
Oh my, just finished watching the finale. Don't have quite the degree of harsh reaction as misterd but there is a definate lack of subtlety.
As soon as the subject of "love" or "in love" came up I had a bad feeling about where we were headed. Looking forward to discussing this season at length.
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misterd
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Post by misterd on Dec 20, 2011 23:10:58 GMT -5
That final moment actually happens in the very FIRST dexter novel - and there's been six or so other novels since then. I've always been expecting it, certainly doesnt herald a death knell, just another new direction. This series as a whole was probably the weakest since the 'oooh Pardon my tits' season though. Shame. I really liked last season and I know it had a few detractors. My problem is not the event itself, just the execution. Had they done this last season, when they actually laid the groundwork for it to happen, I would be singing their praises. But they needed to keep the plates spinning another season, so they came up with a questionable out to avoid this ending in S5, and then dropped it in S6, having done nothing to earn it. When two very questionable moves are made at the end of a generally weak season (the other being the "love/in love" thing), it does not bode well for season 7. |
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Post by ilnino on Dec 21, 2011 3:04:31 GMT -5
The therapist part of the season seemed like it could possibly go somewhere good too but once she dropped the "you're in love with your brother stuff" it just got a bit ridiculous, as a device to get her to that point for the final scene it didnt really work for me.. that said I near shit when it happened lol
Oh and can I just say, a problem for a lot of people have been Dexters close calls and the painting of Dexter for me is the worst yet
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Post by ilnino on Dec 24, 2011 0:51:16 GMT -5
Now Ive had a little time to let it settle in, and get over the shock  Im not really too pleased with those last few seconds.. Now I know its a place we've wanted to be from the show pretty much started out and always wondered how it would play out. Debs just stumbling on to it almost totally ruins what they had to this point, I mean in my head she was always going to work it out through some sort of investigation and have her own questions about Dexter. And I guess to an extent this can still happen if she starts thinking back to Ice truck killer, Trinity, etc.. I just really thought she would get to this point through good old fashioned police work lol. 2 seasons is starting to feel a bit too long now. |
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Post by Stylus on Dec 24, 2011 7:59:29 GMT -5
As far as Deb not having a reason to be there... She sent Dexter to make a final sweep of the church so it makes perfect sense that she would turn up there if she wanted to speak to him. I actually feel the ending salvaged the second half of S6 and that Deborah needed to go through all the upheaval of this season before she was "ready" to find out about Dexter.
To me, this season was an improvement over S5. Brother Sam, Ryan & Masuka, Quinn falling of the rails, Deborah as an Lt., the Gellar reveal and the LaGuerta/Matthews sub-plot were all highlights.
Best line of S6: "In matters of the heart, lead with your d**k." - Vince Masuka
I did not like the whole psychoanalysis/brother-sister business and thought that Colin Hanks was much better at playing the weak subordinate than playing the DDK mastermind. For sure the religious theme got to be heavy-handed. My biggest issue was the Louis character. It seemed like his sole purpose was to provide the writers with cheats using this incredible new invention called "The Internet"! Did anyone else not get the purpose of him sending the Ice Truck Arm to Dexter? I hope that's not setting him up to be the villain in S7.
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Post by ilnino on Dec 24, 2011 10:40:57 GMT -5
Ive heard Louis wont be the "big bad" in season 7
I get the feeling he might have a connection to Brian. Maybe even recreate ice truck kills?
As far as Debs being there, I understand why she went there and had the reason to go. I just think it was VERY poorly done, so much so that it almost felt like an after thought.
I heard a lot of people complain about season 6 so maybe the writers realised they needed something to boost it.
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Post by Scary Gary on Dec 24, 2011 19:34:25 GMT -5
In season 5, when Deb showed up at the execution, there was a tension that Dex was going to be caught. In this season, there was none. That reveal, in my opinion, should have been a big WTF moment; instead it felt like a lame wtf moment.
I'm still a big fan of the show. I just had higher expectations from these writers. Bring on season 7.
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bigmac
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Post by bigmac on Sept 1, 2012 14:10:07 GMT -5
Beware, as SPOILERS RUN WILD BELOW!!! Just finished watching Season six (Got it from the library on Thursday and ended late last night), and oh man, this was a bad one. It was going pretty good, until Dex took off to Nebraska. Not that it was a bad episode, and it did expand a bit on what Brother Sam was saying, but it could have been cut out of the season with no consequence to the series. Okay, a bit of rewriting would be needed after Dex drowns Brother Sam's killer, but this road trip wasn't needed, nor was Dex's brother returning as his conscience (the role played by Harry). The episode felt like time filler, and looked a bit too much like Natural Born Killers at times, to be engaging. Now, the ending.... While I avoided any spoilers about DDK or the season in general, I did see the trailer for this coming year and was THRILLED that Deb finally catches Dexter. Though she might have feelings of insecurity that is crippling to her at times, Deb is a good detective and her character was always treated with respect and dignity by the writing staff. Until now....  WTF, people?!?! You took a strong, positive female character, one growing in her confidence and abilities, and knocked her down to the level of Bella. Instead of using her sessions with the councilor to help her mature the skills she needs to lead the homicide division, the writers turn her into a schoolgirl with a forbidden crush, one that could give her life meaning if she could get the guy to love her to. What a load of crap. I know, they had to get Deb into the church, but how hard would it be to think of something else, some other reason for her going there. Maybe something as simple as checking on Dexter's work, as she sent him there to perform a final forensic sweep. We didn't need this BS love angle that has now boxed them into a corner with Dex and Deb's relationship and has ruined a terrific character. The outboard didn't rev up here, it took off full throttle and the show cleared the shark by several yards. I was looking forward to next season, but now I'm not so sure. It can go downhill real fast from here. |
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Post by rotteninbirth on Sept 1, 2012 14:38:56 GMT -5
Hey no cursing.
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Post by craftfear on Sept 7, 2012 11:51:26 GMT -5
Beware, as SPOILERS RUN WILD BELOW!!! WTF, people?!?! You took a strong, positive female character, one growing in her confidence and abilities, and knocked her down to the level of Bella. Instead of using her sessions with the councilor to help her mature the skills she needs to lead the homicide division, the writers turn her into a schoolgirl with a forbidden crush, one that could give her life meaning if she could get the guy to love her to. What a load of crap. I just finished watching it too. They did not do her character justice at all and I'm actually really surprised. Any therapist I know would have given Deb the same advice as LaGuerta--focus on doing your job because it makes everything else fall into place. What kind of therapist encourages someone to declare romantic love to their brother?? "You talk about your brother a lot in here" is the justification for her saying that? I talk about my mother in therapy all the time, so does that make me in love with my mother? (The answer is no). What a waste. She could easily have been at the church at the end to check on the forensic sweep, and that moment was so fast, sudden, with no build up. We have officially jumped the shark. Oh, and ANY police department can trace an IP address. You don't need a computer genius for that. |
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Post by bigmac on Sept 7, 2012 18:28:56 GMT -5
Oh, and ANY police department can trace an IP address. You don't need a computer genius for that. True, but we're talking Miami Metro Homicide, a group of detectives that haven't noticed a serial killer in their midst for over six years now. Oh, wait, one detective notice it. He died and ended up taking the blame for the crimes. Idiots! But I guess they have to be to keep the show on the air. |
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