jwn
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Post by jwn on Aug 28, 2012 19:56:05 GMT -5
How about an episode on animated horror? Animation's got a long and rich history of the horror genre.From the well known and Nightmare Before Christmas, Corpse Bride etc to just some downright creepy shorts by Jan Svankmajer and The Quay Brothers.Even Wallace and Gromit's brilliantly funny Curse of the Were-Rabbit has references to An American Werewolf in London! Granted this isn't really a horror film lol. The internet is full of brilliant animated horror shorts such as The Cat with Hands. A very creepy short of live action and stop motion.Some great directors started out as animators such as Tim Burton and David Lynch. A whole load of horror used stop motion animation as an element of the films in particular for transformations and monsters in the 80's ( Poltergeist anyone?). Apologise for the slight ramble, I tried to keep it short, but just I wanted to share a few ideas.  |
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yddy
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Post by yddy on Aug 28, 2012 20:26:56 GMT -5
I'd throw in Fear(s) of the Dark. It's a great French film made of shorts - all black and white and very compelling.
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Post by saltychuck on Aug 29, 2012 0:23:48 GMT -5
Well, this does open up the floor for all things anime. It would be interesting to see how Tony and Ted would cover that particular style of film-making...(a scary thought)
The most prominent of the Horror Anime's that strike me are Hellsing (especially the new OVAs) and Vampire Hunter D. There is an entirely distinct culture to anime...I would be interested in seeing if either of them could make it through something like "Death Note".
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Post by osenator on Aug 29, 2012 15:45:40 GMT -5
Great ideal! I'll get my lists later tonight, I have quite a few of them.
And no Anime. sorry, but I can't count on that for Animated Horror.
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jwn
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Post by jwn on Aug 29, 2012 17:23:03 GMT -5
Ah yes Fear of the Dark is an very good collection of horror animation. I used to show it in class at university during film screenings.
I've not personally seen much anime but I was thinking of something like Spirited Away is worth a watch. Not horror but a great film with some actually very disturbing and unsettling imagery when you think of what's presented in contrast to the bright coloured friendly animation style.
Cant wait to see your list! Of the top of my head a few I'd recommend (both exclusively animation and a mix with live action) would be -
Vincent by Tim Burton
Judderman advert ( very cool British alchopop commercial)
The Cat with Hands
Street of Crocodiles by the Quay Brothers.
Just a few shorts to pass a fill a few minuets with quality film making.
It just occurred to me that horror computer game cinematics could be considered as horror animation. Some of the stuff produced these days in game cinematics are mind blowing.
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Post by xtrialbyfirex on Aug 29, 2012 22:02:31 GMT -5
The most prominent of the Horror Anime's that strike me are Hellsing (especially the new OVAs) and Vampire Hunter D. There is an entirely distinct culture to anime...I would be interested in seeing if either of them could make it through something like "Death Note". Hellsing Ultimate is pretty impressive, and probably is one of the best animated horror series. I'd highly recommend Mushi-shi. It isn't very dark, but it has some really amazing atmosphere. Deathnote on the other hand...I really hate that series, but it might have been a decent movie, but the series really drags on and doesn't seem to go anywhere whatsoever. I gave up a few episodes into the second season/story arc. |
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Post by Mama Bear on Aug 30, 2012 20:00:15 GMT -5
This is a great idea, but all the ones I can think of were covered in the kid friendly horror episode. I'd love to see that list, there's gotta be something I missed. I love Vampire Hunter D and Blood the Last Vampire (the movie not the series, yuck!) but anime can't be included since almost all of them have horrific scenes, Akira is straight up scifi until that teddy bear scene which is straight from the bowels of hell.
There's a creepy little short film with Pixar quality animation called Alma that is so good. I read it was being turned into a movie with Guillermo Del Toro producing.
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yddy
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Post by yddy on Aug 30, 2012 20:46:54 GMT -5
Oh, I forgot all about Alma! That is one of the best shorts I have seen all year!
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Post by xtrialbyfirex on Aug 30, 2012 21:30:23 GMT -5
but anime can't be included since almost all of them have horrific scenes, Akira is straight up scifi until that teddy bear scene which is straight from the bowels of hell. Akira is my favorite movie of all time. A really great blend of a lot of things. There is not a lot of straight forward horror in anime, but there is enough to mention at least. Vampire Hunter D, and Hellsing Ultimate are good examples of action/horror, and a little more on the horror side than something like Underworld. |
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Post by saltychuck on Aug 31, 2012 1:04:02 GMT -5
The most prominent of the Horror Anime's that strike me are Hellsing (especially the new OVAs) and Vampire Hunter D. There is an entirely distinct culture to anime...I would be interested in seeing if either of them could make it through something like "Death Note". Hellsing Ultimate is pretty impressive, and probably is one of the best animated horror series. I'd highly recommend Mushi-shi. It isn't very dark, but it has some really amazing atmosphere. Deathnote on the other hand...I really hate that series, but it might have been a decent movie, but the series really drags on and doesn't seem to go anywhere whatsoever. I gave up a few episodes into the second season/story arc. Yeah, Hellsing Ultimate was truly impressive (I'm sure they'll finish it soon). I got spoiled by watching that series before the original Hellsing (though not as technically or thematically impressive, damn fine music) Mushi-shi is a show that I swear I've put off watching at least a couple of times. Maybe third times the charm! As for Death Note, I was warned numerous times that if I watched it, I would wish I had stopped at a certain...point where the show just can't keep up with itself. I know that I should have listened, and yes, it is the ultimate example of an unsatisfying conclusion. I'm not sure if the guys mention it in the "Horrors of War" episode, but what about "Waltz with Bashir"? It has some truly nightmarish imagery in it (obviously a war movie rather than a horror movie). |
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Post by bigmac on Sept 1, 2012 14:18:33 GMT -5
I think the episode would need to include a nod to some of Disney's early works. Look at Snow White, Fantasia and Sleeping Beauty, as well as the short The Legend of Sleepy Hollow, and you can tell the studio wasn't afraid to scare the pants off little kids.
Might have been covered in the kid friendly podcast, but still might need a mention in any episode dealing with animated horror.
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jwn
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Post by jwn on Sept 2, 2012 17:10:50 GMT -5
Great shout on the Disney films were freaky for kids. I was always a fan of the Night on Bald Mountain part from Fantasia www.youtube.com/watch?v=V8Ca_edg6RE , especially the beginning where the devils wings unfold. Great imagery there. I read that Guillermo Del Toro was making an animated Jekyll and Hyde film. I wonder if that's still in the works. |
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Post by maarow on Sept 2, 2012 23:50:35 GMT -5
I've often heard that, because horror movies were banned until a certain point in Italy (call it late '50s), the only horrific imagery fledgling filmmakers were exposed to were Disney films. Suspiria and Black Sunday are specifically pointed at as reflecting the influence of the more frightening sequences in Snow White, such as the scene where the heroine is lost in the woods. Suspiria's visual scheme was notoriously based on Snow White, while the forests in Black Sunday certainly have that menacing animated quality.
Perfect Blue is a great mind-bending anime that, speaking of Italian horror, has more than once been called Argento-esque. It's about a Japanese pop idol who loses her grip on reality when an obsessed fan takes her to task for abandoning music to pursue a career in acting. Murder ensues, as does mayhem.
EDIT: Also, remembered seeing this short film some time ago: Harpya.
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Post by craftfear on Sept 5, 2012 21:45:32 GMT -5
Fears of the Dark is incredible and could probably even qualify as an anthology film. I'd put Spirited Away and Akira and the like in a separate episode though.
Anything featuring film shorts would be great, even if they weren't animated. Also, while it would be pretty interesting, I would be really impressed if KingsTownTed were able to handle doing a Disney-shorts episode.
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Post by hammerhead on Sept 6, 2012 3:39:13 GMT -5
This is a great idea, but all the ones I can think of were covered in the kid friendly horror episode. True, but I would love to see them go into more detail about The Nightmare Before Christmas, Monster House and especially Coraline. Plus it would be a great excuse to discuss ParaNorman and Frankenweenie. |
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