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Post by jmodlinc on Sept 6, 2011 17:35:05 GMT -5
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maarow
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Post by maarow on Sept 7, 2011 1:27:27 GMT -5
I love the original and if I were a good little fanboy I'd be outraged. But...actually, I'm kind of excited about it.
I should note that I haven't seen any of Green's previous films, but with the exception of the last one they're pretty well regarded, and I like what he had to say in the interview. So bring it on.
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Post by Peekysdad on Sept 7, 2011 1:57:44 GMT -5
I love the original and if I were a good little fanboy I'd be outraged. But...actually, I'm kind of excited about it. Suspiria is one of my all time favorites and I think I'm okay with it, too. I don't know if I would go as far as to say "excited" because I imagine any remake would be considerably tamer than the original. However, it'll probably also be a totally different type of film. I'm glad he'd like to use the Goblin score, but I hope they don't make it too orchestral. Whatever your opinion of the film in general, you can't top the music. |
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Post by jmodlinc on Sept 7, 2011 3:38:48 GMT -5
I'm glad he'd like to use the Goblin score, but I hope they don't make it too orchestral. Whatever your opinion of the film in general, you can't top the music. He has the rights to the original Goblin score, and I believe they are just going to use that original score in the new movie, not a newly-composed version. |
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Post by Peekysdad on Sept 7, 2011 12:05:27 GMT -5
I'm glad he'd like to use the Goblin score, but I hope they don't make it too orchestral. Whatever your opinion of the film in general, you can't top the music. He has the rights to the original Goblin score, and I believe they are just going to use that original score in the new movie, not a newly-composed version.
"I want it to evolve. I want to start it at exactly that same place, and take that symphony of synthesizers and evolve it to the opera version. It’d be real evolution from a girl getting off of a plane in Germany, and the kind of simplicity there, to the complex, fascinating, atmospheric horror of the ending, the climax with a far more evolved, sophisticated version of that score. I love the idea of getting someone like John Adams to come and compose the symphony version of it for the ending, something that’s out of left field but is truly just a blossom of the seeds that Goblin planted."
As I said in my post, I'm glad his intent is to use the original score, but it appears in this interview he also plans to orchestrate it. |
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Post by jmodlinc on Sept 7, 2011 16:43:18 GMT -5
He has the rights to the original Goblin score, and I believe they are just going to use that original score in the new movie, not a newly-composed version.
"I want it to evolve. I want to start it at exactly that same place, and take that symphony of synthesizers and evolve it to the opera version. It’d be real evolution from a girl getting off of a plane in Germany, and the kind of simplicity there, to the complex, fascinating, atmospheric horror of the ending, the climax with a far more evolved, sophisticated version of that score. I love the idea of getting someone like John Adams to come and compose the symphony version of it for the ending, something that’s out of left field but is truly just a blossom of the seeds that Goblin planted."
As I said in my post, I'm glad his intent is to use the original score, but it appears in this interview he also plans to orchestrate it. My bad.  |
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Post by bloodblack on Mar 8, 2012 15:35:57 GMT -5
Well, as long as they don't do what I did and buy that new album Goblin made about something called 'Tyler the Creator'. Boy, was I disappointed. And what a palaver trying to get your money back on opened CDs nowadays.
Anyway, has 'Suspiria' not been remade already - as 'Black Swan'?
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Post by xtrialbyfirex on Mar 9, 2012 1:29:33 GMT -5
Other than being an artsy horror movie revolving around a ballet school Suspiria and Black Swan aren't very similar
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Post by maffy on Mar 14, 2012 15:17:49 GMT -5
God, this is the first I've heard of this. Why oh why? From the sounds of things, the guy's not even making a 'remake' in the true sense of the word, so why even call it Suspiria?
I have to say I'm not too optimistic about this. Suspiria has got to be top 3 horror films of all time in my book, but this isn't just the rantings of another outraged fanboy (well, maybe a little). For me, Suspiria is the truly great film it is not just because Argento is such a talented and idiosyncratic director, but also because so many elements came together at the right time to create the nightmarish atmosphere that is the backbone of the film: location, film stock, cast, dubbing, lighting, music, art direction, and so on. If one of these elements were to be changed it would drastically affect the film as a whole. Just look at the 2010 Blu-ray of Suspiria, where they tweaked the contrast and colour palette just a little, and totally killed the film. At least it did for me (stick with the DVD). You can't recreate Suspiria successfully because you can't recreate that combination of elements coming together in perfect harmony.
Enough of the remakes!
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Post by xtrialbyfirex on Mar 16, 2012 23:41:43 GMT -5
I think Suspiria is an amazing movie, and at the same time I feel like it is dated enough to justify remaking.
The gore isn't especially impressive. The scene with the bat is laughable. The girl flopping around in the rolls of wire (that are supposed to be razor wire or something) isn't that great either.
On top of that some of the acting and dialogue (dubbing and content) could definitely be improved.
It's an absolutely amazing movie visually and atmospherically, but I don't think it's a movie that would be impossible to remake.
But I think no matter how bad the remake might be, it will still introduce an entire new generation to the original. I'd never once heard of Suspira or Dario Argento before I started listening to horror movie podcasts, and I'm certain I'm not the only person of my age or younger who has no knowledge Italian horror classics.
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Post by maffy on Mar 17, 2012 9:15:30 GMT -5
That's cool. I hear what you're saying. But for me, Suspiria is a movie that doesn't date because it doesn't reflect reality in any sense, it exists in its own universe, outside of reality. It's a hallucinatory film, almost surreal, and definitely has a touch of the Grand Guignol about it. It certainly is theatrical. You're right, the scene with the bat is completely unrealistic, and the acting and dubbing is generally stilted and wooden, but that just adds to the whole dreamlike 'unrealness' of the movie, in much the same way that David Lynch uses stilted dialogue in his films to put across a sense of being outside of 'reality'. I'm sure in Suspiria's case this is purely unintentional, but nevertheless it works. At least it does for me.
If the remake introduces anyone to Italian horror cinema then great - maybe there is something good that can come out of it! Maybe I should stop being so pessimistic about remakes, but 'they' don't exactly have a great track record of remaking horror classics successfully. In fact I'm struggling to think of one, but I'm sure they must exist!
I always liked the flopping around on barbed wire scene though!
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misterd
Frightful Fiend
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Post by misterd on Mar 25, 2012 22:30:47 GMT -5
Only seen it once, and while I can respect the film's style I can't say I'm a fan.
Even so, the remake seems a stupid idea.
1) The film is old. This is not a recent foreign release that is begging for an english translation.
2) The film is obscure. Outside of genre diehards and film buffs, no one knows it. It has little to no marketing power.
3) The story is generic, and has already been done in other films.
4) There is, IMO, not a single iconic character (a Dracula or Freddy) or concept (giant ape on dinosaur island, zombies in a mall) that makes it impossible to tell a similar tale in an original work.
5) The original is remembered specifically for the work of Argento and Goblyn. Remove them and there is no point to the film.
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