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Post by kingstownted on Jul 12, 2012 13:42:01 GMT -5
Bellissima! It's the Maestro versus the Master, of sorts... On this week's episode of the Horror Etc Podcast, Tony and guest-host Barry (in place of a vacationing Ted) take a look at the works of Lucio Fulci. From his start as a director of Italian comedies, to creator of some of the most astonishing horror imagery to pervade film and TV screens of the 70s and 80s, Lucio Fulci is now regarded as a pioneer of gore, and a legend in the genre that brings us all together each week. Also... It’s a return (albeit a brief one) to Dario Argento, as Tony's education at the hands of Barry continues. In this instalment, a few Argento flicks are covered, including The Bird With the Crystal Plumage, and Dario's TWO nights out at the opera. Like any good Italian feast, it's a generous serving of horror Italiano-style on the show this week. We hope you enjoy - Buon Appetito! As always we welcome your comments: horroretc@gmail.com Voicemail (206) 337-5324 |
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Post by rotteninbirth on Jul 12, 2012 14:02:56 GMT -5
WOOOOOOHOOOOOO!!!!
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Post by xtrialbyfirex on Jul 12, 2012 20:52:58 GMT -5
Can't wait to hear this, should be awesome! We are going to have to start calling Barry "Sometimes Barry"  |
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Post by kosayn on Jul 13, 2012 2:39:08 GMT -5
Ah, Fulci. I remember fondly my extreme disappointment at watching "The Beyond" for the first time, and finding it had nothing resembling acting or a plot, things I have come to desire in a horror film. Certainly in one named "The _____", which for some reason I assumed was a high watermark of quality horror after watching The Changeling / Howling / Shining / Entity. Waiting for the splinter scene, and imagining my own narratives based on the netherworld represented late in the film... That was as good as Fulci's The Beyond got. A well wasted afternoon.
That said, I love DISCUSSION of Italian horror, and I like to think there's something in it for the community as a whole to enjoy. I love Bava and Deodato's successes, and still have Zombi to watch to redeem Fulci. Perhaps.
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Post by notoriousbfg on Jul 13, 2012 13:21:07 GMT -5
A good episode - I've been watching a few Fulci films recently so it was interesting to get some opinions on them:
I couldn't quite decide if I liked the beyond or not when I watched it, but it certainly stayed with me after. By the time I got to the ending I was thinking it was actually pretty good. Its an odd film, quite David Lynch-like in places - the scene where the car comes up to the blind woman and her dog especially. And was much better than city of the living dead, which I didn't really enjoy at all (the vomiting scene was truly vile!)
Quite enjoyed Zombie Flesh Eaters (or Zombie 2) because there is more of a plot in it, but, eye scene and shark scene aside, its not as mad as the other two films!
By the time of the beyond, the 'zombies' seem to have become more like ghosts that are rotting or something.
Got House by the cemetery to watch next...
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Post by maarow on Jul 14, 2012 18:55:35 GMT -5
Good stuff. Barry is very knowledgeable and I enjoy his input.
I've only seen a few Fulci films (accidental alliteration) but it is very apparent that there was indeed an artistry to what he did. He was very adept at creating atmosphere, so I used to find it frustrating that he relied so much on the gross-out. However, as I've gotten more used to his work I realize that over-the-top gore was just his bag; it complements the atmosphere rather than undercutting it. Nobody did vomiting-up-your-own-guts sequences like Fulci, that's for sure.
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Post by eatflesh on Jul 21, 2012 0:46:25 GMT -5
First off love the podcast boys! I have been listening for a while but never wrote in or joined the forum until now.
I am listening to the Fulci episode right now. I had always thought as your guest said that Zombie was made as a response to capitalize on my fave horror movie of all time Dawn Of The Dead.
But if you watch many of the bonus materials on some of the recent American releases of Zombie. The writers and crew seem offended by this claim. They claim that Zombie had already started filming before Dawn Of The Dead was released. That revelation made me respect Zombie and Fulci all the more.
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Post by xtrialbyfirex on Jul 24, 2012 1:34:54 GMT -5
Hey guys, I listened to the show tonight and really enjoyed it. I have to say it's weird for me to always here people say The Beyond is Fulci's best... But to be fair, I think that movie was ruined for me b/c I kept tarantulas for several years. Some tarantulas are genuinely menacing, but the ones in the movie are the type you would give your kids as fun pets. They are 100% harmless. They mostly just sit in one spot and chill out, for hours or even days at a time, not stalk people with murderous intentions Plus the rubber spiders in the movie looked AWFUL! lol I wonder, was the dog attack in The Beyond a rip off of the dog attack in Suspiria? I also have a question for Barry. Does he know of any modern Italian horror that he would recommend? I don't think I've seen an Italian horror movie past the 80's. |
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Post by Peekysdad on Jul 26, 2012 12:52:11 GMT -5
As a huge Fulci fan who has at least seen, if not purchased, most of his films from Perversion Story on, I was truly excited to catch this episode. That said, I was a little disappointed. It's hard to really discuss a director when so few films are covered. Granted you covered the highlights, but pretty much every one of Fulci's films from the seventies, eighties and nineties are available on DVD and could've been covered. I would expect a bit more than a brief plot synopsis as well. I don't know if you really intended this to be a Fulci retrospective, but I would've preferred to hear Lizard In a Woman's Skin, Don't Torture a Duckling, Conquest, Daemonia, Touch of Death ( a lousy film with some tremendous gore), and Cat in the Brain discussed in more depth than the conversation turning to Dario Argento again.
I also found it a little weird that Barry kept telling Tony that he needed help with his horror education. He repeated that sentiment several times and Tony just sucked it up. Wasn't anyone else put off by this?
I hope no one comes down on me too hard for being critical here. I love this podcast and I've been a loyal listener since the early days. This is the first time I've felt compelled to offer any negiative opinions so I guess the handling of this topic hit a nerve. Sorry Ted and Doug were not involved. I would like to hear what they had to say.
Lucio Fulci and the world of Italian horror are not for everyone and negative comments are to be expected. That's okay. I just appreciate it when the criticism digs a little deeper.
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Post by Peekysdad on Jul 26, 2012 12:57:34 GMT -5
Good stuff. Barry is very knowledgeable and I enjoy his input. I've only seen a few Fulci films (accidental alliteration) but it is very apparent that there was indeed an artistry to what he did. He was very adept at creating atmosphere, so I used to find it frustrating that he relied so much on the gross-out. However, as I've gotten more used to his work I realize that over-the-top gore was just his bag; it complements the atmosphere rather than undercutting it. Nobody did vomiting-up-your-own-guts sequences like Fulci, that's for sure. Fulci's films are indeed very heavy on the atmosphere. He managed to make some startling images and was the best director ever at conveying a sense of rot and decay. Sometimes I think the Blu-rays clean his work up too much. |
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Post by xtrialbyfirex on Jul 26, 2012 21:28:00 GMT -5
As a huge Fulci fan who has at least seen, if not purchased, most of his films from Perversion Story on, I was truly excited to catch this episode. That said, I was a little disappointed. It's hard to really discuss a director when so few films are covered. Granted you covered the highlights, but pretty much every one of Fulci's films from the seventies, eighties and nineties are available on DVD and could've been covered. I would expect a bit more than a brief plot synopsis as well. I don't know if you really intended this to be a Fulci retrospective, but I would've preferred to hear Lizard In a Woman's Skin, Don't Torture a Duckling, Conquest, Daemonia, Touch of Death ( a lousy film with some tremendous gore), and Cat in the Brain discussed in more depth than the conversation turning to Dario Argento again. I also found it a little weird that Barry kept telling Tony that he needed help with his horror education. He repeated that sentiment several times and Tony just sucked it up. Wasn't anyone else put off by this? I hope no one comes down on me too hard for being critical here. I love this podcast and I've been a loyal listener since the early days. This is the first time I've felt compelled to offer any negiative opinions so I guess the handling of this topic hit a nerve. Sorry Ted and Doug were not involved. I would like to hear what they had to say. Lucio Fulci and the world of Italian horror are not for everyone and negative comments are to be expected. That's okay. I just appreciate it when the criticism digs a little deeper. I'm pretty sure Barry was just teasing Tony ;-) |
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Post by Peekysdad on Jul 27, 2012 0:33:10 GMT -5
I'm pretty sure Barry was just teasing Tony ;-) Sure he was teasing him, but he said it about five times! |
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Post by xtrialbyfirex on Jul 28, 2012 1:04:52 GMT -5
He said it a lot, but he would have to say it a lot more for me to complain about a free podcast Personally I like Barry on the show, and I agree a more in depth discussion on Fulci's lesser known films would have been more entertaining, but I'll happily take what I can get. His other work sounds so awful it might not be worth talking about anyway. |
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Post by anthonydpmann on Jul 29, 2012 19:05:24 GMT -5
Hi folks!
Okay, let's lay the issue to rest...
Barry is a lovely fellow, one of my dearest friends in this world, and couldn't even harm a fly (although I have cinematic evidence that he will eat them in hordes to sustain longevity)... anything said is in good fun, and lord knows I dish a fair bit m'self. So, thank you very much to the kind folk who have come to my defense, but everything is all in jest - a gentle chiding :-)
(Besides, turns out Barry can use some film ed., too --- he's never seen The Return of Captain Invincible!!)
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